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		<title>I&#8217;m a Certified Scrum Trainer (CST) &#8211; so what?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a companion post to last year&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;m a Certified Scrum Coach (CSC) &#8211; so what?&#8221; post.  In that post I spoke about the advantage of using Certified Scrum Coaches over non-certified coaches for agile or Scrum training.  I also wrote a post called &#8220;Agile Ponderings: Certification &#8211; useful or not?&#8221; where I explored [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.scrumalliance.org/CST"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1597" title="st" src="http://www.agileforall.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/st-300x106.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="89" /></a>This is a companion post to last year&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.agileforall.com/2009/09/15/im-a-certified-scrum-coach-csc-so-what/">I&#8217;m a Certified Scrum Coach (CSC) &#8211; so what?</a>&#8221; post.  In that post I spoke about the advantage of using Certified Scrum Coaches over non-certified coaches for agile or Scrum training.  I also wrote a post called &#8220;<a href="http://www.agileforall.com/2009/04/20/agile-ponderings-certification-useful-or-not/">Agile Ponderings: Certification &#8211; useful or not?</a>&#8221; where I explored what were then the current certifications available from the <a href="http://www.scrumalliance.org">Scrum Alliance</a>.  In that one I wrote that I was probably going to pursue becoming a <a href="http://www.scrumalliance.org/CST">Certified Scrum Trainer</a> (CST) but I had some misgivings about it because of the cost and also the way the application process worked.  Apparently other people had problems with the process as well, AND the Scrum Alliance listened to the complaints.  A beta process was created and I was asked to be one of the first five applicants to use the new process.  I&#8217;m writing this blog entry to detail my experiences with the new process, but also to make people aware of how using a Certified Scrum Trainer could help their organization achieve better results.<span id="more-1583"></span></p>
<p>I want to start with the process of becoming a Certified Scrum Trainer (and I&#8217;ll shorten this to CST from here on because I&#8217;m tired of typing all those words).  For the past couple of years the process required applicants to have achieved the Certified Scrum Practitioner (since renamed to <a href="http://www.scrumalliance.org/CSP">Certified Scrum Professional</a>) or CSP designation.  In fact they had to be a CSP for at least one year before applying.  Once you had that in hand you could apply by filling out an application form which asked a bunch of questions about your experience and your involvement in the Agile/Scrum community.  You also had to submit your training materials, at least 2 student references and at least one co-training reference (someone you taught a class with).  Once you did all of this and paid the $100 application fee your application basically went into a black hole.  That&#8217;s where the fun started <img src='http://www.agileforall.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been told applications were reviewed by a few current CSTs and they gave a yes/no vote.  If they voted to accept you then you were accepted.  If they voted no, then sorry, try again next time.  This process ran approximately twice per year, so next time would be at least 6 months away in most cases.  In my case I applied in September of 2009 and was&#8230; drum roll please&#8230; turned down in October 2009.  I&#8217;ve heard that only 4 out of approximately 30 applications were accepted during that round.  I felt my experience and success level were appropriate to the certification and asked for clarification of why I was rejected.  I received a lot of correspondence, but the bottom line was I wasn&#8217;t accepted.</p>
<p>Then came the Orlando Scrum Gathering where I happened to run into Jim Cundiff who was restarting his role as Managing Director of the Scrum Alliance.  He spoke to a number of us prior to a board meeting where the topic of the CST application process was an agenda item.  The result of the board meeting was the creation of a group tasked with coming up with a new process for CST applications and a few individuals, including me, who were named as the initial beta testers for the process.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AUmPKpvhaCw-ZGZ0NHJwNnFfMTdmZHI3ZHJjeA&amp;hl=en">new process</a> was rolled out in April, 2010 and is a LOT better than the old process.  The new process actually requires a CST applicant to PROVE downstream success of their training through endorsements of at least 5 students, and more importantly, at least 3 different organizations!  Then it went a step further and requires at least 5 sponsors from within the CST/CSC community.  In other words you have to have student success, organizational success AND you have to convince at least 5 potential peers of your abilities.</p>
<p>It took me a few weeks to get all of the necessary documents in place, but on April 21 I submitted <a href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdVUwsJjc_VkZGd6azhtcDZfMTExZmp6N2dzcTI&amp;hl=en">my CST application</a>.  Two weeks later there were no objections so I was accepted as a CST (the normal 30 day period for objections was reduced to 2 weeks for the beta process).  I feel honored to have been accepted and also humbled by the great things people wrote about me for my application.  I hope to live up to it all!</p>
<p>Now, why is all of this background important?  Simple &#8211; just like a Certified Scrum Coach has obtained that status through experience which can help organizations, a CST has some proven abilities as well.  I&#8217;ve been asked by others how to know if a trainer is any good.  Net Objectives has a <a href="http://www.netobjectives.com/what-to-ask-your-trainer-about-their-csm-training">list of questions to ask someone when looking for CSM training</a>.  I don&#8217;t like some of their questions because of some assumptions they have made (full disclosure: between September 2006 and April 2008 I worked for Net Objectives so I don&#8217;t dislike them, I simply don&#8217;t always agree with them).  I also prefer to ask questions about a trainer in general, not just a CSM course!  I&#8217;d ask the following questions:</p>
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<li>Does the person have significant experience in training organizations of all sizes and types?</li>
<li>Does the person have references for successful training engagements (at lesat 3)?</li>
<li>Does the person have access to other trainers and coaches to help them get answers to difficult questions/problems?</li>
<li>Does the person have experience training the type of course you are trying to get? For example, do they do team based training, role based training, etc?</li>
<li>Does the person lecture or do they facilitate a meaningful training workshop?</li>
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<p>You can ask all of those questions, or you can ask just one: Are you a Certified Scrum Trainer?</p>
<p>You can get away with this single question because a CST will have positive and acceptable answers to all 5 of those questions (and MANY more)!  Once you know you have a CST, then start digging deeper around any specific areas where you have concerns.  CSTs are excellent trainers, but not all have the same experiences.  Some will fit your situation better than others so be sure to ask questions.  On the other hand, as question 3 makes reference to, all CSTs have access to the entire CST/CSC community to help them out.  That is access to well over 100 of the brightest trainers and coaches in the world.  There is almost nothing which will stump that group!</p>
<p>Until next time I&#8217;ll be Making Agile a Reality<sup>®</sup> by starting to set up some Certified ScrumMaster courses.  <a href="http://csmsd-AgileForAll.eventbrite.com">My first one is already listed</a> and is a unique co-facilitation with <a href="http://www.scrumalliance.org/profiles/766-roger-w-brown">Roger Brown</a> in San Diego.  Sign up before May 26 and get the early bird discount!
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve asked myself that question more than once in the 5 or so months since I became a CSC.  I never doubted my decision to go through the process and I was thrilled to have been accepted into a very small fraternity (still only 21 in the world), but I couldn&#8217;t figure out how to [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img class="alignleft" title="CSC logo" src="http://www.agileforall.com/images/ScrumCoach1.gif" alt="" width="250" height="89" />I&#8217;ve asked myself that question more than once in the 5 or so months since I became a CSC.  I never doubted my decision to go through the process and I was thrilled to have been accepted into a very small fraternity (still only 21 in the world), but I couldn&#8217;t figure out how to really talk about it.  After spending a few days at the Agile2009 conference in Chicago I finally found the answer.  Being a CSC is a big deal because these people are clearly among the most talented agile/Scrum coaches in the world.<span id="more-989"></span></p>
<p>Before the conference I had personally known three of the other 20 CSCs and all of them impressed me as being amazing, but I wasn&#8217;t sure how I would feel about the rest of the group.  Having met several more CSCs at the conference I now have a pattern of perfection &#8211; every CSC I have met is amazing.  Because I now know a lot more of them, and I know most of the people who are on the certifying committee, I&#8217;m very convinced that each of the other 20 are amazing in their own ways.  In the past 5 months I&#8217;ve read emails and documents which were so great I really wish I had written them!  I&#8217;ve been in conversations where every one of the participants had a strongly held opinion yet each was also able to have an open mind about the topic because they wanted to enlarge their coaching toolbox.  I&#8217;ve seen this group work together for the best interests of everyone, including those that aren&#8217;t CSCs &#8211; because it is the right thing to do!  To me the group shows incredible conviction in the belief that what is good for any one of the group is good for all, and also what is good for the agile community in general will be good for the group as well.  They are selfless almost to a fault.</p>
<p>But what REALLY separates them is the experience they bring to the table.  I know there are a number of Certified Scrum Trainers (CST) who also do significant amounts of coaching, but a great deal of their coaching is with people they taught in a CSM or other course.  CSCs don&#8217;t always have that situation, which makes their successes even more amazing.  Imagine going into an organization and giving them agile/Scrum coaching without having built a prior relationship with all of the people there.  It is a difficult task, yet CSCs do this all the time.  They are able to be successful because they understand the difference between blindly following a process, and being successful with a process.  They understand how to be an agent for successful change.  They understand how to work within organizational boundaries and still achieve the desired result.  Most importantly, they have been in MANY different situations so they simply have more wisdom and experience helping organizations be successful.</p>
<p>If you are looking for an agile/Scrum coach for your organization you should at least ask the following questions of potential candidates:</p>
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<li>Does the person have significant experience with many different types of organizations?</li>
<li>Does the person understand the difference between advising/consulting vs. just doing it themselves?</li>
<li>Does the person know how to facilitate rather than take over a meeting?</li>
<li>Does the person know how to be a servant leader vs. just giving orders?</li>
<li>Does the person understand how to work with all levels of an organization, not just developers or managers?</li>
<li>Do they have references for successful coaching engagements (at least 3)?</li>
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<p>You can ask all those questions, or you could limit it to just one: Is the person a Certified Scrum Coach?</p>
<p>Why can you get away with this one question?  Because if they answer yes to this one question, they will give appropriate answers to all of the others.  The other questions are part of the application process to become a CSC.  You don&#8217;t achieve the certification without knowing and understanding each of those other items.</p>
<p>Until next time, if you are working toward Making Agile a Reality<sup>®</sup> in your organization, consider hiring a Certified Scrum Coach to help.  The money you invest will be minimal compared to the results.  Investing in good coaching is almost always something successful agile organizations mention as one of their keys to success.
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